Vol 3 Chapter 1127: Reject and leader

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"Do you want to join the song court school?" He Waier looked at Wang Qi and said sincerely: "I said it was the joining. The very formal kind."
Wang Qi knew what He Waier was referring to. The "school" is a spontaneous civil organization in the official definition. Generally speaking, there are no strict rules and regulations. You only need to claim to be a scholar of a certain school, and most scholars of that school do not have to express explicit opposition.
However, there are also more formal ones.
To put it bluntly, the "School" is a small circle of scholars with similar ideas. It is a network of people. If a school leader leads a person into this circle, this can be called "formal".
Feng Luoyi, who was not yet called the "Cang Sheng Guoshou", was introduced into the Songting School by the fortune teller.
What He Waier said to Wang Qi is the same.
Wang Qi grinned, but didn't make a sound at all. After a while, he whispered: "I thought that the seniors of the opera court did not like me very much."
At the end of the final, the operator Xi Baiche still holds the idea of ​​"just in case", hoping that the incompletely revealed truth is biased or only valid within a certain range, and hopes that his original plan will have a chance. He understood Gödel's incompleteness theorem, but did not fully agree.
Even Feng Luoyi gradually became a part of Geting School because of support and promotion of incomplete theorem.
Wang Qi doesn't think that what theory he has made recently will make Geting School feel compelled to absorb himself.
"What you want to do is very difficult." He Waier said seriously: "Lianzong is destined not to like your methods and ideas-no matter what you have done. On the other hand, Lizong's People won't like you either, they just think that you are too arrogant, but ten years of entry, but a knotty stage, you want to do things that the teacher can't accomplish ... Especially, the teacher is still because of you Had to leave Wanfamen for the sake of
"However, it's different to join the song court."
"You are a disciple of Mr. Feng, which is close to our own position. And as long as you enter the court, there will naturally be people who regard you as the inheritor of the teacher's spirit, and no more people will be hostile to you. Moreover, Geting The faction can also suppress the reactions of those who have been sectarian. "
To be honest, Wang Qi is so tempted.
Joining the opera court is a kind of "honor" for a mathematician.
Moreover, joining the Geting School can indeed save him a lot of effort. The operator is the kind of charismatic leader who can gather many people around him. If you get the connections left by this powerful man in the world, Wang Qi will undoubtedly be more convenient.
At least, he does n’t have to find some people who can do research together as he does now. He has to mobilize public opinion, make the city wind and rain, and then filter out the people he recognizes through long preaching.
If it is a court genre, it is estimated that only a few high-level monks need a sentence, and naturally many people will come to their own homes.
But Wang Qi finally shook his head: "I'm sorry, Senior. I have received your kindness, but I am afraid that I cannot accept this invitation."
"Why?" He Waier didn't look surprised. He just wanted to know Wang Qi.
"I just think that the song court is not suitable for me?"
"If you are worried that no one communicates with you in the field of algebraic topology, it is not necessary. Although the problems of geometry and topology are considered to be in the category of Lianzong, in fact, our operatic school also does well. Ai Ruoche is an authority in this field, and the teacher's "Geometry Foundation" is also an important work in this field. Going back further, the son of the cloud, Ke Lanyin, is also a great everyone ... "
Among the stereotypes of other monks, even the geometric topology of Lianzong partialism and the logic of the theory of partialism are already common sense. But in fact, even the extreme Lianzong does not completely understand set theory-in fact, even Jun Pang Jialai is even a master of this, he also thinks that set theory is a very useful tool in general. Lian Zong just refused to regard set theory as the basis of arithmetic, and nothing more.
And Lizong naturally cannot completely understand geometry and topology. The very important tool "Xianyu Computation" in the Pan-Sky Change Knowledge Method [Functional Analysis] is a masterpiece of Lizong, and the operator is Zeng Jingge's geometry.
However, many of the fortuneteller's concepts in geometry were sneered by Lian Zong.
Wang Qi still shook his head: "No, it's not the reason in this respect-I just think that if you enter the song court school, you might be constrained everywhere."
"Confinement ..." He Waier smiled: "Now with your talents, who can confine you?"
"If at the time of the discussion, there are voices that are not very consistent with my concept, how can it not be constrained?" Wang Qi shook his head: "You should also feel it. I borrowed from the operator's thinking, but I was early It can't be counted as one way. The Geting School is almost all students of the count. "
When the operator was editing the "Geometry Foundation", the ideal goals of "axiomatization" and "formalization" and "completeness", "compatibility" and "decidability" emerged.
What Wang Qi is doing now is very similar to the original operator, so He Waier can also see the difference between the two.
Wang Qi simply ignored the original goal of the operator. In other words, he no longer thinks of proving a particular proposition, he can find the general laws of the whole arithmetic system. He is using a slow method to reveal the overall structure of mathematics a little bit
After all, it is different.
On earth, scientists once lamented that a new scientific truth won not by convincing its opponents and seeing the light of truth, but by the death of these opponents and the growth of a new generation familiar with it.
In a world where the "opponents" will not die, this seems difficult.
Only the truly irrefutable facts will allow those former "dissenters" to change their views.
However, in the field of mathematics, which is more speculative, the "irrefutable" facts may be easy to obtain, or may be difficult to obtain.
He Waier said nothing, he already understood Wang Qi's thoughts.
"Your heart is quite big." He smiled, then sat down, sat on a rock, and looked to the west. The setting sun had set, and only a little red light crossed the horizon due to the refraction of the atmosphere. They struggled to hit the clouds and stained a small piece of sky to the west.
This is the last afterglow.
"Are you under pressure in front of Shujun?"
Wang Qi drew his sword and drew a circle on the ground: "This is a circle."
"In the case of no definition, it's okay to call it a" box "." He Waier's expression had relaxed, and he said casually.
"Even if a monk of Yangshen Pavilion went mad and changed everyone's cognition overnight, so that all the tribes in Shenzhou called it a" box ", it could not change its attributes. It has an infinite variety of symmetry operations, The symmetry group is a cyclic group, and the monks of Yangshen Pavilion cannot break its symmetry just by conscious operation. In the human language, it is just called "round"-considering the dialect, maybe there are "Maru" kind of name? That's all. "
"The human race calls it a circle, and there are equivalent concepts in the fluctuating thinking of the Dragon, Demon, and Poseidon. These concepts point to the same definition-in the same plane, the distance to a fixed point is equal to a fixed length. A collection of points. This is its essence. It does n’t matter if it ’s called 'circle', 'square', 'wine glass', or 'boo ah woo wow'. "
Wang Qi looked at He Waier sincerely: "I always think so. Mathematics is a self-contained system." Essence of mathematics ", the thinking of our human race is not enough to define it. It is not possible now. The foreseeable future will not work either. So, 'how do we think about mathematics' is not important. In my opinion, Lizong Lianzong is only two different routes and two ways of thinking. If I really do something, just It has no logical errors, and as long as it is correct, it is impossible for the king to defeat it. "
"I am free ..." He Waier smiled: "Isn't this concept very close to Lianzong?" A look of memory appeared on his face. "At the beginning, I told my teacher and other colleagues, saying you Although I despised the "feeling" of Lianzong, did you still rely on feeling in the process of exploring the avenue? In fact, you are also the beneficiaries of that thought. At that time, the teacher scolded me. That It was the first time I was scolded by the teacher. It was then that I started to stay away from my fellow students and join the Lianzong camp. "
Lianzong believes that mathematics is an objectively existing whole. The "feel" of a person is a kind of grasping the mathematics itself that is beyond intuitive feeling.
"Perhaps I said that you might be unhappy. Actually, I don't believe in" feeling "very much. I don't even believe my own feelings." Wang Qi said: "Even if I always follow the feelings, it's the same way."
"why?"
"Because, even the feeling of the master is wrong." Wang Qi sighed: "Senior Greek, he believes in 'feeling' too much. He really believes in the existence of 'completeness', but he doesn't know that mathematics is actually incomplete. .. I do n’t think I can be stronger than senior Greek.

"I heard Feng Luoyi said that you have a problem, but you still like to use some methods that are still conjecture, thinking that you are the kind of person who prefers to feel." He Waier shook his head: "Interesting."
Wang Qi shame.
In fact, where is he confident in how he feels?
He just knew "history".
This performance fell into the eyes of others, it seems very contradictory.
However, there are never fewer weirdos in Wanfamen, and He Waier didn't care. He looked at the red that disappeared a little on the west side and said, "Actually, I am also selfish when I come to you."
"After all, I am no longer the pinnacle of me. When the teacher said that the Geting sent to me, I was very embarrassed. I think the Geting can't fall into my hands. Then, I heard you again To preach, so I came to understand. Then I found out that you are the spiritual successor of the teacher. "
"Do you know? If you were willing to join the court just now, after a hundred years, that study is yours."
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