Vol 3 Chapter 2105: United Encirclement and Suppression [Third]


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Su Junyu's impression of "next step" is also vague.
He really doesn't like the inner model very much, but if it is said that a theory should be refuted, it seems too far away.
In other words, he just has some vague ideas.
The inner model violates the intuitive feeling of the mathematician. It is true that, as Wang Qi said, the mathematics study has its own freedom and is not subject to interference by artificial will. However, in countless explorations, the "feeling of numbers and graphics" that the mathematicians have explored is by no means meaningless.
In fact, there are too many things in the inner model that violate human intuitive perception.
For example, delete the loop.
This is something that most monks who are not religious can not accept.
Such a cycle is so common in nature.
Not to mention, all exercises must be cycled every day.
Without this weekly cycle, all exercises cannot be achieved.
The "self-referential" and "infinite loop" pointed out by the unreasonable calculations are indeed very scary things. But this is only directed at the foundation of the human race, and has not yet spread to nature.
In order to circumvent ill-consideredness, the removal of the cycle is contrary to normal cognition.
Can not accept.
Even the idea of ​​"constructible classes are all collections" is unacceptable.
Su Junyu even sneered a little at this-Sure enough, there is still the stink of Lianzong.
In the whole of set theory, is there only "constructible sets"?
Is this one too optimistic?
Unfortunately, under the existing system, this point cannot be falsified.
For this, he must find other forces.
Thinking of this, he looked at the letter lying in his spiritual box.
Letter from Lianzong Xiaoyao Fanbach.
Van bach.
This name once made Lizong monk timid.
Suanjun is disdain to find someone to attack weaknesses. He prefers to perfect his theory so that the other party is impeccable.
After all, the king is always on the "defensive". They don't have many targets to attack.
But people like Van Bach will.
From this letter, he learned the status quo outside.
For the constructable class of Hai Ting real people, even Zong Zong refused to accept it.
Constructable classes and selection axioms have come together. The choice of axioms, it will trigger the paradox.
Lian Zong must start with axiom of choice. Even Lianzong monk who is most sympathetic to Hai Ting's real people wants to limit the scope of choice of axioms.
This is all true.
Van Bach did not hide his intentions.
But at the same time, he also pointed out another point.
In a system, the stronger the "infinity" introduced, the more things can be proved.
Well, this is a very non-Lianzong statement.
But this is speculated from the proof process of the internal model.
That is, "large base" including "unreachable base"
There are many benefits of large cardinality.
For example, the introduction of a large cardinality can directly prove that any constructable set of real numbers will not cause the split-ball paradox, and there is no need to deselect the function.
For example, the introduction of large cardinal numbers can prove the completeness of second-order arithmetic.
This was the road where Wang Qi stagnated after proving the completion of the first order.
But the only problem is ...
"Large cardinality" and structural axioms are contradictory.
"For your school, it is inevitable to overthrow the constructable class. The one Wang Qi conceived can execute all the hypothetical entities of mathematics, and the roots of mathematics cannot be realized within the sectarian system.
"But if the strong unreachable cardinality is introduced to distort the natural system, it is the sky and the sea ..."
"So, to prove the safety of the unreachable cardinality pedigree is to prove the safety of Jipai for several rounds ..."
Su Junyu looked at the letter as if there was some magic in it.
"What's this?" Su Junyu finally just sighed: "With the help of Lizong's hand, to clear Lianzong's aliens?"
No, the boundary between Lizong and Lianzong is blurred at this moment?
Su Junyu thought so.
Perhaps "heretics are more hateful than heretics", not just for the field of theology.
For Lianzong, the introduction of the system of heaven and principle, the introduction of axioms of choice, and the disturbance of Lianzong's perfect geometric universe picture is much more hateful than most of Lianzong monks.
Isn't Lizong right?
The differences between Geting School and Cang Sheng Guoshou, Ji Lao, Wang Qi and Feng Luoyi ...
No no no…
Su Junyu shook off such thoughts instantly.
At least Wang Qi has not made a choice yet.
Su Junyu sighed like this.
Sure enough, it was a mess.
As early as a few days ago, Su Junyu had transferred part of the letter to Wang Qi.
He is still waiting for Wang Qi's reply and instructions.
"However, this is said, but there may be answers to some things-after all, it is self-sufficient to learn." Su Junyu lay down and said mockingly.
In the past two years, Kipai was devoted to compiling the "Original Calculation" and building its own system. For this debate, just ignore, or pretend to be dead.
But this time after being tapped by someone?
Even for the basis of arithmetic, he will study the unreachable base.
Van Bach's conspiracy.
Su Junyu can even imagine that an invisible net is being formed. This net has both the elements of the sect and the elements of the sect. And its goal is only one-Hai Ting.
It is formed for "constructible classes".
"It's just that the monk who even hates the" infinite ", to come up with this, is it too hard?"
Su Junyu wanted to laugh. But when he thought of Hai Ting, he couldn't laugh again.
how to say……
This unprecedented union with Lizong Lianzong was actually just to encircle and suppress ...
"Not enough, not enough ..."
At this moment, two letters appeared one after another.
One is Wang Qi's reply.
The other is ...
"Old style?" Su Junyu raised his eyebrows.
In recent years, his connection with Bo Xiaofeng has not been so close.
With curiosity, he opened the letter.
In the end, it was just a sigh.
Then, he read Wang Qi's letter again.
Then he froze for a moment: "Lying trough!"
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"I'm not blowing it with you, big nephew." Bo Xiaofeng is talking with his children and nephews: "I was so irony with Su Junyu."
"Wow!"
"Great! Uncle Jiu actually has such a great friend!"
"Master Su! That's the material of future freedom!"
"Members of the School! Uncle Jiujiu, how do you know about School Math?"
In the past two years, Su Junyu's reputation has become louder.
If it is said that Su Junyu was only the footnote of Wang Qi ’s legendary journey two years ago, then now he has become a legendary figure.
"I tell you, I wrote a letter to Su Junyu a few days ago, so that he can help our family solve some problems." Bo Xiaofeng patted his chest and said.
The junior has some doubts: "Uncle, is this overblown ... Su Junyu, will conflict with several Xiaoyao monks?"
Bo Xiaofeng was a little unhappy: "Just wait and see!"
With that said, he stood up, left the lobby, and came to the backyard.
In a quiet place, there is a box room.
Bo Xiaofeng pushed in. Inside the smoke cloud, all kinds of precious incense burning. These are the most precious drugs for invigorating the mind.
Bo Xiaoya sat on the table, stunned. Her state is very strange, like a primordial spirit, but she did not cross the "step", but it is vague, but it is not a typical half-step primitive spirit.
This is a manifestation of "fuzzy mathematics", and it is ... the result of getting into trouble.
"Sister, how is today?"
Bo Xiaoya smiled: "It's very good, and the performance has converged. In short, you can return to the old concept in less than three years ..."
But when she said this, she sighed deeply: "But, it is just Jin Dan. If this hurdle is not taken, there is no future."
"It's good not to have to open oneself." Bo Xiaofeng's eyes turned around: "You think about it, Wang Qi told you this question, I'm afraid he didn't care much about it?"
"Basic arithmetic is naturally the more important thing. I ... the talent is slightly inferior." Bo Xiaoya shook his head: "I can meet Wang Qi when he first entered the road, and he got this completely different mathematics from him. , It was already my lucky hit. Why should he care? "
"But your next step is to fight against Wang Qi's master, Cang Sheng Guoshou, and the recent leader of the new Lianzong, Hai Ting real people!" Bo Xiaofeng shook his head.
Bo Xiaoya has been studying for more than ten years since understanding "fuzzy mathematics".
However, recently, she encountered big troubles.
The axiomatization of fuzzy mathematics cannot be realized within a good basis set.
After the self-referential is cut off, the axiom of fuzzy mathematics cannot exist.
Bo Xiaoya is just at the threshold of Yuan Shenhua. It is precisely because of the exploration of Feng Luoyi and Chen Youjia along the "cutting fingers", the axiomatic foundation of her theory of mathematics was taken away.
Bo Xiaofeng didn't even think of it. Bo Xiaoya was doing such marginal research, but was also wiped out by the aftermath of the Wanfamen civil war, and almost cut off the road.
Bo Xiaofeng was a little scared.
Faced with the core of the Ten Thousand Ways, which is the collision of the free mathematicians, what is it like now?
It is said that the Bo family has been organized to try to clear some obstacles for Bo Xiaoya.
That is ... Join "an invisible union".
Li Zonglian's unprecedented cooperation encirclement and suppression.
But Bo Xiaofeng felt that this was not enough.
He sighed: "Shall I go find someone to help again?"
Bo Xiaoya smiled: "Brother, who can you find? Wang Qi never cared about this field. If he is to find him, he has to study from the beginning. Who else can help you?"
Bo Xiaofeng gritted his teeth: "I and Su Junyu are also old friends ..."
Bo Xiaoya has a weird look: "It's just a fight. Isn't it a friendship?"
"Now, why not?" Bo Xiaofeng said: "His performance in recent years is very powerful. Perhaps, he can give you a new idea!"
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