Chapter 633: Xiao Kuai Ai answered the question

Chapter 636
"We... are very pleased to see the establishment of the Chip Alliance. We are very pleased that China Chip has a rare opportunity in ten years. We hope that everyone will work together and win this technological war under the leadership of Miaoxin."
Perhaps many of the people present are successful people.
They don't worry about eating, nor about mortgages, but no matter who, no matter what level they reach, they will be in awe.
The "we" in this old man's mouth is what everyone is in awe of.
Pei Qianlong was helpless.
The situation is getting more and more complicated and gradually losing control. Today's venue may be just the beginning.
However, this is also expected.
It's impossible to give no response to such a big thing.
And the attitude of the boss is also very clear. The senior representative who attended the meeting was very happy to use two in a row, which is enough to show the support for the chip alliance, and there may be a lot of practical support in the future.
Then this senior also affirmed the power structure of the Chip Alliance.
Obviously, Guo Jia does not intend to interfere too much, and openly supports Miaoxin. I hope everyone can listen to Miaoxin.
This kind of endorsement is too strong.
In addition, other industries of the cat factory can also be taken care of, provided that you can’t mess around, even if you play a board, the same board may be very powerful when hitting others, and it may be two or three points for hitting the cat factory. Up.
Others are envious.
They also want this treatment.
It's a pity that they have no technology, none of 28nm, let alone 14nm.
The 14nm thing was only said yesterday, and the top gave a response today, which is obviously a decision made after some discussion.
Pei Qianlong estimates that at least the chip research institute and the fab will also respond.
The research institute of the Chip Alliance is also on the side of the fab, and it will move there after it is built, and there are some factories and so on.
After the elders above gave a brief speech, the conference continued.
Next is the handover ceremony of the first 28nm lithography machine.
Mr. Xiao, the vice president of Xia Run Group, received the certificate from Sun Moyu, along with an inspection report, which proved that it was a fully qualified machine.
They got lucky and got the first lithography machine.
At that time, the production efficiency will increase, the yield rate will increase, and some mid-end orders that were unable to be accepted in the past may also be involved. These are real benefits.
Why?
Just because there is a purchasing supervisor in their family who has access, and has personal relationships with Kleist's people.
Therefore, there is no absolute fairness in this world. In the final analysis, it is the exchange of favors and interests.
Others only have envy.
The R&D cost of this lithography machine is not calculated. The equipment and manpower are collected by the veterans of the chip alliance. The raw materials, patents, and costs are about 30 million yuan, and the price is 30 million US dollars, which is almost 180 million. Look like.
If you remove the cost, one unit will have a profit of 150 million yuan.
Very cowhide.
This is actually nothing. Huaxin International previously ordered a 14nm process lithography machine from ASML, which cost 120 million US dollars, which is about 750 million Chinese currency.
Although the difference between the two is a generation, but the gap is four times, fools know how to choose.
The 28nm lithography machine can process 14nm and 12nm or even 10nm chips after two exposures, but the yield rate will drop a lot, which means that it will increase production costs.
The problem is that they don’t deliver goods, no matter how good they are.
The one ordered by Huaxin International has now been cancelled.
Order from the chip alliance instead.
The chip alliance currently has insufficient production capacity, and it takes almost half a month to produce a 28nm lithography machine. Huaxin International also needs to queue up.
However, they are the veterans of the chip alliance, and their strength is strong, the follow-up will not wait too long.
Lin Dong knows about the chip conference.
He faintly felt a bad feeling about whether the technique he had used out was a bit too much.
He also swiped Weibo to see how the media reported on the chip. He unexpectedly found that there was no report from the scene, and there was not even a discussion of this chip conference.
Now I finally feel relieved.
Then he opened up to see if a question he asked yesterday was answered.
His question is, "If a domestic company develops and manufactures a 28nm lithography machine and sells 30 million units, what is the profit?"
This kind of question should actually be consulted by the people on Miaoxin, one sentence, but Boss Lin didn't ask-he was stabbed back all day, and he is suspicious now.
Therefore, he chose to listen to the opinions of ordinary people.
Yesterday, there were more than 700 answers today, and they were also topped by some.
Many answers are not nutritious. For example, this one says: "In layman's terms, the subject is a delusional patient. I really don't understand why so many people like this kind of fishing post."
"The Chinese people always like to dream. The theme is awake, stop dreaming."
"If we can build a 28nm lithography machine within three years, I will live broadcast it."
Most of them didn't believe it, and felt that this topic was meaningless to discuss, but soon there were some slightly nutritious answers.
"As a practitioner in the chip industry, I can clearly tell the subject that the 28nm lithography machine really cannot be made by us. If, I mean, if it is made, the material cost alone is likely to cost 30-50 million. Not to mention the investment in equipment, manpower, and technology. There is no profit at all from selling 300 million units. I really don’t understand how the subject’s price of 30 million came from."
"Thirty million is actually not impossible. The premise is that Guo Jia will subsidize 500 million."
"This is an industry where investment costs tens of billions of dollars at every turn. In the past few years, our bank's biggest bad debt was a chip company. After tossing for a period of time, it lost a lot of feathers and exited; the subject, you can’t use the lithography machine. Take the cost separately and say that you have to consider the issue of early investment. You might as well ask how much money you need to invest to make a 28nm lithography machine. My answer to this question is at least 200 billion."
"A doctoral degree in microelectronics science and engineering at a certain university ~EbookFREE.me~ I actually don't want to answer your question, but since I have seen the present one by one, I will simply say that if foreign technology is authorized, we will not It’s not that we are unable to create a 28nm lithography machine. After all, we are now producing 90nm energy, but how much does it cost to license the technology. This is an incomparable thing, because it involves too many Zheng Zhi factors; back On the topic, if a domestic 28nm lithography machine is given a price, I think it should be between 150 million and 300 million. Lower than this will only kill the company. If it is higher than this, we will fall into the vicious circle of making it better to buy... …"
"No money, do you know how much additional investment is needed around a lithography machine?"
"Four years ago, I was fortunate enough to follow the company delegation to visit Bay Semiconductor Manufacturing Co., Ltd. and learned about the prices of some of their lithography machines. At that time, their purchase price for a 28nm lithography machine was NT$4.3 billion, although now with the 14nm volume Production, 7nm R&D, and 28nm prices should come down. I don’t think it’s expensive to sell three to five billion Chinese coins.
Haha, these answers are all Xiao Kuo Ai.
Boss Lin looked at the answers one after another with relish. At this moment, he felt that the whole world was on his side.
(End of this chapter)