Vol 3 Chapter 876: Before the curtain call

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The oracle machine is something that cannot be constructed. Its nature is closer to "thought experiments" and "ideal conditions" in physics, etc. It is something that cannot be reproduced in reality.
An oracle machine with undecidable problems cannot be constructed from the beginning.
This is just using a fantasy concept to try to figure out a possible concept to get a true and true result.
However, this result sounds like despair.
"Isn't even the Dasheng Shengyin in my dreams able to complete this proof?" Feng Luoyi smiled reluctantly, his eyes unable to conceal his loss.
Even if the strongest plug-in in personal imagination is opened, it is impossible to bypass the boundary drawn by this "self-referential".
Turing took a sip of tea and whispered: "I think we may not have to go in this direction anymore ..."
"Listening to the concept that" the Dao Shengyin "can't explain ..." Feng Luoyi seemed to be grudged, and repeated again.
"Teacher, in fact, it may be that our imagination restricts our means." Wang Qidao said: "The idea of ​​a Turing real person is indeed an imagination. However, the" imagination "of Turing real people is still It was inferred from his "experience"-it was derived from the experience of "the poor". Perhaps there is a way in the world that can bypass self-referentiality, but our thinking is still fundamental Unconscious. "
Feng Luoyi's tone is a bit decadent: "Infinite and Infinite ... Once we involve 'arbitrary' and 'infinite', we will be unable to move at all ... Is poor to infinity the limit of our understanding? Or is it counted as a king? That is right again? There is no endlessness in the world? "
In the universe, the mass of matter is finite-otherwise, according to the infinite extension of gravity, an infinite universe, the gravity of every point in it is infinite.
The total mass is limited, so the number of elementary particles in the universe is also limited.
The entire universe also seems to have nothing to count for infinity.
Mankind has never known "infinity", and all the concepts of "infinity" are actually derived from the "infinity" recognized by mankind.
Therefore, a group of mathematicians strongly demanded that the concept of "infinity" be removed from the classics. Infinity is nothing but a "metaphor", a "description", and does not really exist in the world.
As for those who study the "infinite" problem, it is pure idiot.
Wang Qi shook his head and retorted: "Is there a poor boundary in the real world?" He twisted a tea leaf from the tea cup: "How long is the actual circumference of this leaf?" Nautical chart: "How long is the coastline of the Western Frontier of Shenzhou?"
This is the infinite reality.
The edges of the leaves of any plant have serrations. Above those serrations, there are more subtle serrations. Of course, this "subtlety" will not last forever. But in fact, anything will always consist of a more basic structure.
The length of the coastline is the same.
Like the blades, the extreme coastline is folded from a line without a scene.
In the field of nature, there are no standard one-dimensional line segments or standard two-dimensional figures that appear strictly in terms of geometry.
This fractal dimension between 1D and 2D is more.
This is the "infinity" that actually exists.
Suanjun's approach is too extreme. The practice of abolishing infinity is equivalent to learning one finger at a time.
Feng Luoyi's expression is still somewhat low: "Even if you really say that our cognition limits us, and the possibility of bypassing this restriction is beyond our cognition ... what can we do?"
"My life also has an end and knowledge and endlessness. With the end, there is no end.
After all, human cognition is limited. However, the mystery is endless. It is very sad to chase infinite cognition with a finite life.
In particular, when the things you are pursuing are out of your cognition from the beginning, they cannot be known to you from the beginning.
It seems to be doomed.
For the seeker, there is nothing more sad than this.
Wang Qi's expression remained unshakable. He has been baptized in relevant logic and philosophy on the earth, and his mind has long been resolute: "No, teacher, there is no" unable to recognize "in this world, only" not yet confirmed "."
In this world, there is no "unknown", only "unknown".
This seems to be the direction of a worldview, but for Wang Qi, this direction is the foundation of his ambition.
"Unknown" means that sooner or later one day can become "knowable" or even "known".
"This situation only shows that our mathematics is still primitive and still in its infancy. Even if it is the logic within the laws of nature, we haven't known everything. We still have a long way to go."
A hint of curiosity flashed in Turing's eyes: "If you want to open the door, you have to get the key, but the key is on the other side of the door. To get the key, you have to open the door ... Even so, do you believe we can break the game?" "
"There may not be only one door, and there may not be only one key. However, our team's" door side "has not been explored, and naturally it cannot find the" key "."
"It sounds more like faith."
Wang Qi laughed: "I believe this."
Feng Luoyi's shaking lasted only a short moment. Soon he cleared all the gloomy colors in his eyes and restored the calmness of Ping Suli: "Yeah, I understand ... It's just a pity. I originally wanted to find a way to break the situation, and then give Greece The gatekeeper looked at it and asked him not to give up hope ... "
It is a pity that in this field, it seems that the more you discover, the more desperate you are. In the beginning, Wang Qi just drew a vague line and told everyone that everything outside this line is unpredictable. This time, the Turing real man almost killed all the ideas of "crossing the boundary to find a way".
There is no road ahead.
Real Turing shook his head: "Mr. Yue Han doesn't have to blame himself. This is not your fault ... To blame, I can only blame me for being responsible."
Feng Luoyi entrusted the most talented Turing real man in this field a few months ago, and asked him to find a way to break the game.
"There is a burden ... not to mention." Feng Luoyi's tone was plain: "Logic is like this, as the Tao is constant, not Shengchang, not demonic. You just found it."
Real Turing asked: "Now ..."
"Can't drag it anymore." Feng Luoyi closed his eyes. "Incomplete and undecidable, I have been pressing here for almost half a year. Half a year! Now the court is still being dragged by the Ximen Lord on your veto. Go ... this will never work. "
"Although it's a bit ruthless to say so, but that's how we are, there is no way to stop for one person."
"Especially ... we now have a new calculator structure to be promoted. The two of your papers are here for another day, and the new research in the field of calculators and Wanxian fantasy will start one day later."
"It's more than that!" Real Turing and Master Ximen didn't know each other well, and did not have the emotion of Feng Luoyi. There was still some excitement in his look: "I still have some thoughts in a dim light. I feel that we are about to step out of the twenty-three question and go to a new field."
The logic and even the basis of people's cognition will change from now on!
"I'm clear. I will arrange these things. You go back first ... I have to plan well. I need to be quiet."
Wang Qi nodded and was about to leave. Real Turing stopped him: "Little friend, I still have a few ideas here to talk to you. You will pass through the Immortal Realm and wait for me."
Wang Qi will never refuse to communicate with this level of operators. He nodded his head and left first, and then the Turing real people also left by Xiangyu.
Feng Luoyi sat quietly for a while and suddenly said, "Since it's here, why don't you show up?"
Fortunately, Pang Jialai seems to have been extruded from a small hole with some kind of bone reduction, and his body is awkward. It took a while for his incarnation to return to normal. He hummed: "'Go out of the category of twenty-three questions'? How dare you say that guy with a broken sleeve. I've never been in the category of twenty-three questions of Laozizi."
At the beginning, I did not know whether it was the difference in ideas or personal emotions. When the operator listed twenty-three questions, he intentionally or unintentionally overlooked the areas where the number of contributions from the king was the largest.
Among those areas, it also includes the broad category of "topology".
Feng Luoyi didn't answer the other party's words, but sneered: "It's not good to listen to the corner of the wall, you might lose your demeanor."
"The demeanor is made for the waste. I don't think it's necessary." It seems that Junjun doesn't mean to deny it at all. The old man just does n’t like your logic, and he does n’t understand it. This defense ca n’t prevent me ...

Feng Luoyi is not wondering why Jun is able to "strengthen" here, and did not ask him how much he heard, but directly asked: "What do you think?"
"There is no special idea. I was just here to urge you to make you open and incomplete and undecidable. Since you have already made a decision, then when I did not say it." Don't hide your attitude. He does n’t care about the incomplete series of things. He only cares about when such a thing as Hip Che Che will be introduced to the academia, and also "his world" is clean: "I think that you have invested too much in this matter. It ’s much more. At the beginning, we publicly pushed you to deal with the routine of China, but not to let you use your own personal resources and waste the resources of Wan Famen to help Xi Baiche ’s stupid get around the obstacles.

"This thing doesn't need you to teach." Feng Luoyi responded with no anger in his eyes: "The reason why I invite you back is just to make you a deterrent. As for specific things, it doesn't need to be. Senior you handle it. "
"Ahahahahaha." Shujun laughed loudly: "Senior senior ... but I don't think so. By the way, I take back the frontier, and I don't think you are useless."
"It's also inspired by you, and I found it again in mathematics! Seeing the miserable look of Hebe Che, the more I feel, I can't be confused by prejudice, or by the law. I recently felt , I'm about to make a breakthrough again ... I won't say anything, I will go back and continue my research. "
After Shujun left, the little quiet room was silent again. After a while, Feng Luoyi's fingers flicked in the air for a moment: "Go ahead ..."
The curtain call ceremony of the prime time of the Lord and Geting School began.
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