Chapter 178: Need clinical trials

The clinical problem mentioned by Xiao Ming is actually the final stage of testing the experimental results.
In the laboratory theory, the technology is successful, and it cannot be proved that it will be successful clinically.
It is difficult to conduct clinical experiments in Xia Kingdom!
Not to mention all kinds of complicated procedures, whether the cooperation of the hospital can be obtained is also a question mark.
And in the medical field, clinical trials not only involve medical technology issues, but also patient life safety and ethical issues.
After all, Pangu Technology ’s life science laboratory belongs to the private research institute of private companies. In the field of life science research, most of the keys are in the country, in the hands of scientific research institutions such as Yanjing University and Jiangcheng University.
When Xiao Ming mentioned clinical problems, Gao Siqi was also lost in thought.
"We don't have a dedicated hospital or even a qualification for clinical trials," she said.
"How long would it take if I applied now?" Xiao Ming thought for a moment.
Xiao Ming is not an expert in medical experiments, so he raised this question.
Zheng Xuanyu is an expert in this field, saying: "If you have a hospital background or a scientific research institution that cooperates with the hospital, the time is faster, the application time is three to five years, and the long time is ten to twenty years. Xia and Mi are the same. After all, a new drug and a new treatment at the time from the successful experiment to the market to ensure that each indicator is absolutely safe. But you are now ... "
Zheng Xuanyu said: "It is obviously impossible now. There are analysis reports of drugs or treatments before they enter clinical trials, followed by complete animal medical experiments, and finally human clinical trials. There are four stages in human clinical trials. This process is quite long. "
Zheng Xuanyu took Mi Guo ’s anti-cancer targeted medicine as an example:
Now we see Mi Guo ’s latest anti-cancer drug was actually launched more than 10 or 20 years ago! The same is true in Xia Guo. Ordinary drugs are developed At least three or four years before it goes on the market, and drugs similar to anti-cancer drugs that are relevant to the safety of patients' lives have gone for ten years! "
Xiao Ming knew that this was a law and a regulation, but he also expressed serious misunderstanding.
Taking patients with advanced cancer as an example, they are already at the advanced stage of cancer, and they are all living with their fingers. If there is a specific medicine, it is too late to take it immediately. Where can there be any concerns about the safety of life?
The premise here is that this medicine does work!
Xiao Ming said silently: "Ten to twenty years of listing approval time, such a long time I do not know how many patients have no chance to wait."
Gao Siqi also sighed.
Xiao Ming felt a little funny at this time. The laboratory for gene expression regulation was completely completed in accordance with Pansha's experimental guidelines. The results were also expected, and they were definitely able to treat cancer.
A method that has been proven to have no side effects for a long time, but also undergoes a long approval process here, is indeed a bit of a drama.
But this is also normal. Xiao Ming can't always go to the relevant department with the treatment plan and say that there is absolutely no problem with this technology. You have to believe me.
Zheng Xuanyu put forward a feasibility plan, she said: "We have two options, one is to apply for clinical trial licenses in accordance with conventional procedures and wait for approval from the relevant departments. Another is to cooperate with hospitals to recruit volunteers to try new drugs. Patients, but the latter is at greater risk. "
"What does the last plan mean? Can you say it in detail?" Gao Siqi asked.
Zheng Xuanyu nodded and said: "In fact, not only in Xia Kingdom, but also in many of the most advanced anticancer drugs in the country, or the procedures have not been completed, or they are still lacking, they have not obtained marketing authorization. The market calls these drugs Are defective drugs. However, there is strong demand for these imperfect drugs. "
Taking Xuanyu, the state-of-the-art and complete cancer medical technology, as an example, Zheng Xuanyu continued: "Many research institutions in the country cooperate with hospitals to provide patients with" defective "drugs. These drugs can alleviate the pain of patients even if they are defective. Prolong the life of patients. People are on the verge of death, and they can be regarded as dead horses. "
Gao Siqi said: "You are talking about the rice country, this is Xia country, can you do this?"
Zheng Xuanyu hasn't answered this question yet, Gong Luyue interjected: "There are more defective drugs in Xia Guo, what folk anti-cancer recipes, what traditional Chinese medicine methods, etc., which of these folk Chinese medicine and prescriptions have been approved? Anyway, patients It ’s because you are rushing to a doctor, and in front of life and death, it is good to have a glimmer of hope that you can live. It is the credit of these folk divine heals that cures you. If you eat it, you die of cancer. "
Gong Luyue accidentally mentioned the darkest and most ridiculous side of Xia Guo Medical. She said that these patients are definitely not a few ~ EbookFREE.me ~ Most of them chose to believe what they called Folk tradition prescribes conservative treatment, and the final outcome of these patients is death.
Therefore, no matter what approval or clinical trial is empty talk.
After Gong Luyue's speech was published, Xiao Ming felt deeply helpless.
Zheng Xuanyu continued: "I just took the rice country as an example. In fact, Xia country is the same. Many universities, official and unofficial scientific research institutions have cooperated with hospitals to sell defective drug treatments to patients. These drugs have not been approved for marketing. , Are also in the experiment. But the drug is more or less effective, can prolong the survival expectation of patients. "
"During the treatment of defective drugs, the hospital only serves as an intermediate platform and does not make any guarantees to the patients, while the pharmaceutical company signs an agreement with the patients and does not guarantee the survival rate of the patients. However, all patients are at the advanced stage of cancer and people are dying Many patients still report the state of mind to try new drugs that are not on the market. This method gives patients a chance to survive and also gives pharmaceutical companies informal clinical research opportunities. After all, from the perspective of medical experiments, formal clinical The time and money spent on medical experiments are huge, and few companies can afford it. "
Zheng Xuanyu is indeed an expert. She has a thorough understanding of medical experiments. "If these informal clinical experiments prove to be effective, the medical laboratory will apply for higher funding to continue research with sufficient data, or simply experiment with the project. Monopoly to more specialized and powerful pharmaceutical companies, and these pharmaceutical companies follow complex procedures such as clinical trials, approvals, etc. This is the current state of global medical research. "
"So, how do you decide?" Zheng Xuanyu looked at Xiao Ming.
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